Who makes a good Bin editor for GN's?

GNTTYPE Discussion Group: Scan Tools, Chips, and Tuning: Who makes a good Bin editor for GN's?
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Craig McConnell (Greenshamrock77)

Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 10:38 pm Click here to edit this post
I have Winbin, but it is very incomplete. It has no fields for PE(power enrichment), PE spark advance, MAF calibration tables, among others. What are you guys who burn your own chips using? What do the pros use, or do they just edit in raw hex? Does Tunercat have a good/complete def file?

any help/suggestions appreciated.

thanks in advance

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Michael G. Mshar (Mgmshar)

Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 06:59 pm Click here to edit this post
As far as burning chips...

I'm just editing the raw hex files with the program that came with my EMP-10 burner. I downloaded the Excel spreadsheet from the GNTTYPE web site that translates all of the hex into english.

I'm sure others have more polished methods...

Mike

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Craig McConnell (Greenshamrock77)

Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 01:18 am Click here to edit this post
I got a recomendation of GMEPRO from anouther source and was impressed with it. However, I would still be interested in seeing that excel spreadsheet you spoke of. Could you give me a link to it, or a filename to search for?

Thanks again

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Michael G. Mshar (Mgmshar)

Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 08:16 am Click here to edit this post
Here is the link to the one on the GNTTYPE web page: http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/chips/stock_promdata.xls

I found a few mistakes in the listing (as compared to the 1986/87 stock chip codes that are listed on GNTTYPE), so I modified the spreadsheet and included a column that shows the formulas used to convert from the hex values to the calibration values. If you send me your email address, I'll get that to you.

Mike

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David Huinker (Turbodave)

Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 10:29 am Click here to edit this post
Michael, since it's my spreadsheet that you're referring to. I suspect there probably were a mistake or two ;-) It's a pretty old iteration, and I've updated it substantially since that one that's on the web page. I've tried submitting a newer version but haven't had much luck.
I'm curious as to why you had to add a column to show the formulas that convert from hex to calibration values, since that's already in the spread sheet. The Hex values are displayed in column B, and the HEX2DEC conversion is done in column C, and then the formula to convert to a "human readable" value are in column D.

Manipulating the hex value in column B will automatically show the corresponding change in column C and D.

Or did I misunderstand?

Dave

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Michael G. Mshar (Mgmshar)

Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 11:52 am Click here to edit this post
Dave,

What you are saying is absolutely correct. What I did was add a column (column "E") that explicitly shows what the formula is. That way, if somebody prints-out a copy, they can see the conversion formula on a printed copy.

As I mentioned, I also updated the hex values in column "B" to be the hex values from the 1986 post-recall chip.

Please don't misunderstand - I am very glad for your work on that, and I'm not trying to trivialize it! I've used that spreadsheet quite a bit, and it' been a blessing. I just added a few enhancements for my own use (I usually work off a printed copy). If anybody else plans to use a printed copy of the spreadsheet, I'd be happy to provide this updated copy.

Mike

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Ken Mosher (Kenmosher)

Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 11:56 am Click here to edit this post
Ummmm... I've never seen any newer version than what's out there Dave!

The last one submitted (and the one that is out there) is dated 9/2/2000. If there's a newer one, it must be lost in Cyberspace, since we'd certainly love to have the updates on the web page! :)

Send it to me and I'll get it out there...

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Ken Mosher (Kenmosher)

Sunday, August 26, 2001 - 12:15 pm Click here to edit this post
Also, Mike .. we can put your version up there too so that folks can print it out...

Just let me know...

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David Huinker (Turbodave)

Monday, August 27, 2001 - 11:23 am Click here to edit this post
Ken, I'll send one out to you in a few days. I just filled in some empty spots in the old one, and updated the "other" worksheet that's included (I'll bet not too many folks noticed the "other" worksheet which is part of the spreadsheet) ;-)

Dave

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Jim Testa (Turbojim)

Friday, August 31, 2001 - 08:24 pm Click here to edit this post
I started doing a hot air sheet. Maybe I'll finish it one day :-)

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Chris Morrone (Nightstalker)

Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 08:22 pm Click here to edit this post
I'm in dire need of the Data Map for the 84/85 (hot air) BGN in any form (i.e. worksheet, ecu. Word, PDF, etc). So if anyone (Jim) has some/most/all of data mapped I would really appreciate a copy. My e-mail is jcmorrone@msn.com
I have mapped the larger tables based on David's work (David, thank you, thank you, thank you), which I've used for years, by pattern matching, but I really need to change more of the constants than tables.

Regarding a Bin Editor, I developed a VB GUI layered over a host of functional tools that I developed over the years for my own personal use. I would be happy to give it to anyone who wants it. I have used it to modify many, many, many BGN and other GM chips/memcals. It's similar functionally to TunerCat with a few more features thrown in. The ones I use the most are the analysis of 2 bins with output by table in human/dec/hex units. I also have an export feature to text that documents the entire bin and to Excel so that I can take my exported TurboLink recordings and overlay them. Hey it's free and no warranty. :-)

Regards,
Chris M


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