Jeromy gamble (Jeromy) | Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 03:02 pm Can I use a ported and reworked stock exaust elbow and wastgate puck on a Te-62? What will it fit, will it hurt performance over my TA-49, and has anyone tried it? Thx Jeromy. |
Steve Wood (Stevewood) | Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 03:07 pm yes, you can. No, it will not hurt performance. Unless you are running toward the low 11's now, don't expect to see improvement with the 63, tho.. |
Jeromy gamble (Jeromy) | Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 03:13 pm Steeve I'm not following you on the 63 what do you mean. |
Chris Bischof (Ungn) | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 09:25 pm A stock elbow WILL hurt performance over a 3" downpipe system like a Terry Houston, but the hurt may be not as much as you may think. In testing with a TA49, the stock elbow cost .05 seconds and 1.5 mph on average vs. a THDP in the 11.7 to 11.8 range. Pretty close, but the THDP was always faster, indicating it made more top end hp, where a larger turbo is most efficient. |
Scott Keller (Keller) | Saturday, November 24, 2001 - 11:52 pm I would expect much more from a THDP over anything that includes a stock elbow. I personally don't have any figures (yet), but plan to soon. I would not run a stock elbow on a turbo that large unless absolutely necessary due to some class rules if you're racing in a 'stock appearing' class, etc. It would be awfully restrictive, and I'd think modifying it for a larger puck woudld be a very good idea for boost control if you must use it. |
Chris Bischof (Ungn) | Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 08:25 pm Here's the numbers from the test performed at Buicks @ Bristol 2001. Everything else was equal except the elbow. Ported elbow/2.5" ATR downpipe/testpipe: 11.840 @ 113.08 11.859 @ 114.66 11.836 @ 114.72 Average: 11.845 @ 114.15 (avg 60 ft 1.680) Terry houston 3" DP/Capped dump pipe: 11.745 @ 115.36 11.788 @ 116.05 11.838 @ 115.62 Average: 11.790 @ 115.67 (avg 60 ft 1.687) Difference = .055 and 1.52 The results surprised me. I thought the THDP would be worth more. These weren't even all the runs. If I factored in the others (made it an avg of 5 runs each) the stock elbow ET would be a little closer (though the mph would stay about the same). You can't knock a 1.5 mph increase, but it appears to help the top end charge more than the ET. The rest of the combo is stock driveline, stock intercooler with a neck, bluetops, TA49, 275/60 BFG's weather was in the mid 60's, track elevation 1400 ft or so. Your results may vary. |