How much trouble would it be for me te Wire up the 87 Crank Sensor to my Hot Air Hot Rod ?
Call John Spina at Caspers (847-247-0484)
and ask for his plug and play adapter
I think my crank sensor has failed and need to replace it. I have already upgrade the CCCI module to the 87 version. Should I use an 87 crank sensor on my 84? Does it bolt on the same?
Art
You will have to use the later style crank sensor bracket, but they bolt in the same.
The 86/87 style crank sensor is less than half the price of the 84/85 style, but will need the wiring adapter that John now sells.
I installed a new SU133 (Wells) Crank sensor (Comes with new bracket) and Wire Harness (108087) from Casper and the old Hot Air Hot Rod started up ! Good is Good !
For those of us that are "money conscience", I got a list of vehicles that use the same crank sensor as the 87 GN. I got this list from ACDELCO.COM. I looked up the AD Delco number, then crossed it to find what cars it went in. There happens to be a '86 olds in my brothers backyard. I'll remove the crank sensor, bracket, and wire harness, and install it in my '84 (that has been upgraded to the 87 CCCI already).
Sensor,Crankshaft Position
AC Delco Part# 213-292
1989 PONTIAC FIREBIRD TRANS AM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI T Engine VIN = 7
1989 PONTIAC FIREBIRD TRANS AM GTA SE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI T Engine VIN = 7
1988 BUICK CENTURY CUSTOM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 BUICK CENTURY ESTATE WAGON V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 BUICK CENTURY LIMITED V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 BUICK LESABRE CUSTOM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 BUICK LESABRE LIMITED V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 BUICK LESABRE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA CRUISER V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA CRUISER BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA INTERNATIONAL V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA SL V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 OLDSMOBILE DELTA 88 ROYALE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 OLDSMOBILE DELTA 88 ROYALE BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1988 PONTIAC BONNEVILLE LE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK CENTURY CUSTOM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK CENTURY ESTATE WAGON V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK CENTURY LIMITED V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK ELECTRA LIMITED V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK ELECTRA PARK AVENUE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK ELECTRA T-TYPE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK LESABRE CUSTOM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK LESABRE LIMITED V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK LESABRE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 BUICK REGAL GRAND NATIONAL V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI T Engine VIN = 7
1987 BUICK REGAL LIMITED V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI T Engine VIN = 7
1987 BUICK RIVIERA V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
Sensor,Crankshaft Position
AC Delco Part# 213-292
List part 2 (message board wouldn't take list all togethor, too big.)
1987 OLDSMOBILE 98 REGENCY V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE 98 REGENCY BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA CRUISER V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA CRUISER BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA S V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA SL V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE DELTA 88 ROYALE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE DELTA 88 ROYALE BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 OLDSMOBILE TORONADO BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 PONTIAC BONNEVILLE LE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1987 PONTIAC BONNEVILLE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 BUICK CENTURY CUSTOM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 BUICK CENTURY ESTATE WAGON V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 BUICK CENTURY LIMITED V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 BUICK CENTURY T-TYPE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 BUICK CENTURY V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
1986 BUICK ELECTRA PARK AVENUE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
1986 BUICK ELECTRA T-TYPE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
1986 BUICK ELECTRA V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
1986 BUICK LESABRE CUSTOM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 BUICK LESABRE LIMITED V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 BUICK LESABRE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
1986 BUICK REGAL GRAND NATIONAL V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI T Engine VIN = 7
1986 BUICK REGAL T-TYPE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI T Engine VIN = 7
1986 BUICK RIVIERA T-TYPE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
1986 BUICK RIVIERA V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
1986 OLDSMOBILE 98 REGENCY V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
1986 OLDSMOBILE 98 REGENCY BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
1986 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA S V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 OLDSMOBILE CUTLASS CIERA V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 OLDSMOBILE DELTA 88 ROYALE V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 OLDSMOBILE DELTA 88 ROYALE BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = 3
1986 OLDSMOBILE TORONADO BROUGHAM V6 3.8L 231cid GAS FI N Engine VIN = B
I have an 84GN upgraded with the 87 CCCI module. Being cheap (my wife prefers we spend money on our son and bills for some reason), I found that an '86 Old Delta 88 has the same bracket and crank sensor as the 87GN. I've replaced (I think) almost everything else in the ignition system trying to isolate a misfire problem. I think I hooked up the wires wrong and "may" have damaged the sensor. I snipped the 84 connector from the sensor and soldered the three wires to the 86 sensor connector. What is the proper matchup?
The 86 connector has the following colors:
Black/Lt Green
Black/Dk Green
Blue/White
The 84 connector has :
Red
Green
Black
I assume the 'used' crank sensor was good because the motor ran before the car got parked (due to "extreme" body cancer). Before replacement, I had misfires, after replacement, nothing. Is there a way to test the sensor other than asking autozone to do it?
84-85
G 918 Crank Sensor B Signal Green
H 952 Crank Sensor C GND Black
J 916 Crank Sensor A 12v White/Red
86-87
F 643 Crank Sensor B Signal Blue/White
G 642 Crank Sensor C GND Black/Yellow
H 641 Crank Sensor A 10V+ Black/Light Green