No Scoop

GNTTYPE Discussion Group: Engine Mechanicals: No Scoop
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Tom Bailey (Tkbailey)

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 09:03 pm Click here to edit this post
When I got my 87 GN, it had the stock intercooler with shroud, but no scoop. I've been putting it off and putting it off, finally I have done a bunch of upgrades (turbo, injectors etc) and am a little dissapointed with the car. How big of a deal is it not having that scoop? Be gentle....

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Jay (Jayster)

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 09:24 pm Click here to edit this post
Gentle, eh? ;)
Hows about having a radiator without access to outside air? Not very efficient wouldn't you think? Ever put a piece of cardboard in front of a radiator in the winter to heat-up a stubborn car so you gan get some interior heat in 20-below weather?

..same theory. No scoop - you're sucking engine-compartment air in your "intercooler"...maybe you should just call it a hairdryer, and be done with it? :)

all kidding aside - an intercooler can not do it's job without cooler air than ambient in your engine compartment. You're basically going straight from the turbo to Throttle-body if your intercooler isn't cooled itself...hello detonation!

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Shawn (Jsta6)

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 07:45 am Click here to edit this post
I addition to the scoop, do the rubbermaid garbage can mod. I swear it gave me 2/10 in the 1/4 mile...

http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/mia/s/h/shawnco/scoop/intercooler%20scoop.htm

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Jay (Jayster)

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:02 am Click here to edit this post
bahahahahaaa.a.aa.!!!! Thats one of the funniest thing's ive seen yet! lol
the "rubbermaid garbage can mod"..hahaha

now, can i use a generic can, or does the rubbermaid have better flow characteristics?? ;)
hahah

ahhh..seriously - im not trying to downplay your mod or anything..i thought you were joking when i read that shawn, so i was surprised to say the least when i saw the pic. Good 'ole backyard ingenuity!! :)

It sure looks like it would help too! Hey - wanna sell the other half of your can??

;) hahaha..ahh..i kill me

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Shawn (Jsta6)

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:22 am Click here to edit this post
lol

Strange but true. A lot of vendors sell similar mods for $50 or so. A lot of guys on this board, on the other boards, and in our local club swear by this mod. And I wasn't kidding, it really did knock 2/10 off my 1/4 time...of course, good and bad air days could have affected this...just search the archives for spark plug debates and you can see what I mean... ;-)

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Tom Bailey (Tkbailey)

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:02 am Click here to edit this post
Kirban sells a nice one made of fiberglass. Supposed to slide into the stock scoop. Sells for like 35.00. Pretty nice.

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Chris Charlton (Bgndobe)

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:31 am Click here to edit this post
Hi Tom, just seen a fiberglass scoop (looks new) on e-bay...price was $15.50 when I looked. 8/1/02 1:30pm Chris

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Tom Bailey (Tkbailey)

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 11:22 am Click here to edit this post
Yeah, that's the extention scoop that kirban sells. You have to have the stock scoop on for it to work. It is similar to the rubbermaid mod, but a nice fiberglass piece so you don't have to cut up a trash can :) Good looking out though. Thanks.

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Tom Bailey (Tkbailey)

Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 02:16 pm Click here to edit this post
Hey, if someone wouldn't mind, can you explain why I should be getting detonation without this scoop? I realize that it doesn't really cool the air, but how is this any different from the hot air GNs? Also, I thought cooler air required more fuel, and since I have my fuel pressure sort of high anyway, should things be ok? I know there has to be a hole in my knowledge somewhere....someone fill that hole please :)


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