Lost Oil Pressure while driving

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Todd Flessner (Blazinwarrior78)

Friday, May 02, 2003 - 09:34 pm Click here to edit this post
then shortly after it started running like crap. I was lucky enough for it to happen close to work, so I shut it down as soon as I pulled into the parking lot. I checked the oil level, its fine right at the full mark. My engine has around 6000 miles on it, it was running Excellent this afternoon. I live less then 2 miles from work, I limped it home and hopefully did not do any further damage. I lost the pressure and started running horrible after I slowly crossed the railroad tracks. My friend says that I possible lost the pickup tube, has anybody had this happen before? And would it run bad because the ECM is picking up a knock from the lifter tap I had from having no oil flowing thru the engine? Another friend suggested that the oil pickup screen could be clogged, or that a by-pass valve on the oil pump could be stuck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. After a great afternoon of cruising, I had to sit at work all day wondering what I did to my T. thanx -Todd (83 T with 87 block, Injection & ECM)

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frank marshall (Turbofrank)

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 09:05 pm Click here to edit this post
Key on what are tps#'s no pressure on pedal and wot.
What are blm#
Maf# on the blast.

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Todd Flessner (Blazinwarrior78)

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 10:40 pm Click here to edit this post
say what, Frank? I have no oil pressure at all, right after I shut it off, I checked inside the valve covers and they were dry. So I guess I am giong to start by checking the Pickup Tube. Any other suggestions? please. thanx.

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Chris Cairns (Chriscairns)

Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:31 pm Click here to edit this post
First thing I'd do would be to remove the cam sensor.

First reason......The cam sensor has a notch on the end of the shaft that turns the oil pump. The shaft itself it turned by the cam gear.

When you go to remove it first check to see if the engine builder had seated the cam sensor correctly...down far enough so the collar just under the cap is actually touching the front cover where it seats. If the engine builder didn't put the cam sensor notch into the oil pump shaft notch properly it could have broken the notch thingy on either the end of the cam sensor or the oil pump shaft.

Second reason....you can now take an oil pump priming tool and attach it to a drill then to the notch I spoke of earlier down inside the front cover through the hole where the cam sensor was, and turn the pump clockwise. If you don't feel an increase of resistance as it turns (oil pressure building) then you'll have to look somewhere else.

Let us know first if this pans out.

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Todd Flessner (Blazinwarrior78)

Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 11:09 am Click here to edit this post
I started to remove the cam sensor, when I found out that it was already loose. It could move up and down about 1/4 of an inch and spin fairly easily. Does this pose a problem to me having no oil pressure? Does the oil pump and cam sensor have to be installed correctly for the oil pump to make pressure? Cause I would think that if the oil pump was installed it would run right and make oil pressure. But I am still new to this setup, and need all the help I can get.
Headliner is finished and I got a new windshield to replace the cracked one. Now all I need to do is get the power windows running. The driver door window works, but the connectors on the wires are so Generic they are shorting out on the frame of the door, and the passenger window doesn't work and the wires have no resistance, so I assume the motor is out on that side, I'll have to make time to pull the door panel off and check it out. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. thanx- Todd

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Todd Flessner (Blazinwarrior78)

Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 11:11 am Click here to edit this post
BTW, what is, and where do i get an oil priming tool?

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Chris Cairns (Chriscairns)

Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 04:26 pm Click here to edit this post
Sounds like you found the problem.

If you've now removed the sensor you'll notice it has a gear on the shaft...plus it has a notch thingy on the very bottom of the shaft. The notch thingy goes into the notch thingy on the oil pump shaft which you can see by using a flashlight down the hole where the cam sensor goes.

The gear on the shaft is turned by the gear on the cam. That turns the shaft and the shaft turns the oil pump via the notch thingy.

If the sensor was up and out of the notch then the oil pump won't turn....no oil pressure.

An oil priming tool is just a long thin shaft that you put one end into a drill and the other end, which has a notch thingy, into the notch thingy on the oil pump. Then turn the drill on clockwise and it'll turn the oil pump and make pressure. You'll feel it when the pressure comes up.

Auto store has the oil priming tool. Less than $10....or should be.

Once you get the priming tool, put it into action and watch you oil pressure gauge, WITH KEY ON. Or idiot light with key on and make sure it goes out.

Keep us appraised and we'll go from there.

Chris

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Brian Lee (Brianwagonlee)

Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 05:11 pm Click here to edit this post
If the cam sensor was coming out far enough to disengage the oil pump, then it may have chewed it up. I would make sure that the end of the cam sensor doesn't look damaged, and also replace the oil pump. It is only a couple of dollars, and it would be a little bit of insurance. You don't want to button everything up, think it is ok, then lose a motor over it. Ya know?

Brian

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Todd Flessner (Blazinwarrior78)

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 10:21 am Click here to edit this post
ok , so I removed the cam sensor, used the oil priming tool I found at the store (Moroso for $14)( Napa wanted $$$54 !!!!) Got oil pressure, so thats a relief. Now I checked the notches, and they look ok, prolly cause I shut down the motor quickly. So how do i know if i got the sensor installed 180 off?


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