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91dime 04-08-2007 02:42 AM

Block differences
 
What is the main difference in the 109 turbo blocks and na blocks. I know there is a oil return feed. Are the blocks more stout? If im not planning on making alot of power would I be ok to build a NA engine up? I can get a rolled fillet crank, 2 dot rods, and 8445 heads for a good price.Im going to turbo it also. What do you guys think?

Keller 04-08-2007 03:14 AM

Re: Block differences
 
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pict...lockguide.html

Check out the metallurgy and such. Other than the drain hole there are no differences.

91dime 04-08-2007 11:28 AM

Re: Block differences
 
So the other difference inl the turbo blocks have more metals in them? Like it says Manganese (maybe), and some Chromium (maybe), so really there not even certain.

kenmosher 04-08-2007 08:27 PM

Re: Block differences
 
No ... they are identical. Read a bit closer ...

The STAGE blocks have different metallurgy (reportedly) ... production blocks have the same metallurgy.

Any 109 block will be the same (turbo or not)

91dime 04-08-2007 10:05 PM

Re: Block differences
 
oh, ive been confused on that for awhile.What about the pre 86-87 NA blocks, what is the difference between them and the 109 blocks? I couldn't find anything in the tech area about them, but i could have missed it.

Keller 04-08-2007 10:46 PM

Re: Block differences
 
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pict...lockguide.html
http://www.gnttype.org/general/v6hist.html

fritz 04-23-2007 10:13 PM

Re: Block differences
 
I just found a NA 86 doner car to use the 109 block for my 84 ha. I know that the heads are the same, but my concern is the deck height being slightly different. I want to use the stock 84 intake to maintain the HA configuration & look
Any problem here?

91dime 04-23-2007 10:42 PM

Re: Block differences
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fritz
I just found a NA 86 doner car to use the 109 block for my 84 ha. I know that the heads are the same, but my concern is the deck height being slightly different. I want to use the stock 84 intake to maintain the HA configuration & look
Any problem here?

I though all the 109 blocks dimensions were identical ,but i can be wrong.

kenmosher 04-24-2007 09:33 AM

Re: Block differences
 
Have your machinist measure it ... if it came out of a N/A car, the deck height may be the same as the '84.

In either case, it's such a small amount, that everything should bolt up fine either way.

turbofish38 05-02-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Block differences
 
The deck height is the same for all 109 blocks. Even the NA motors used a thick graphite HG to compensate for the shorter deck.


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