Just who is Lear Siegler, and why are his seats in my '84 GN - GN and T-Type Performance Enthusiasts (GNTTYPE) Forums

Spool'n Fool · #1 03-08-2006, 11:35 PM

I was hoping to find an answer to this question as well as how many cars had the leather seat interior in 84? (LS is a High Tech Company, making aircraft types of seats??) I remember Levi's doing it once for Jeep and I think AMC cars.

I've heard rumors they made 200 or so with these seats??
Are the 84's any more valuable with the leather interior?

Turbobuick2 · #2 03-09-2006, 11:19 AM

i just purchased my first gn, (a 84), and it has the leather seats, they are in great shape except for one tear in the leather, (bummer) and their pretty dirty. they are power and have all the adjustment options with the turbo 6 logo in the leather. i'm going to get them redone and haven't done any researching yet as to where to send them. these seats are way better than the reg. bucket seats that went in all the other gns being they look and feel like sports car seats. i wonder why they didn't put them in all of them?

Spool'n Fool · #3 03-10-2006, 12:17 AM

Good luck finding material, I wish I could tell you where to look. It's a little tough to locate.
I lucked out and my interior guy found 4 yards of the original bolster/door panel material so I grabbed it all. I need one bolster redone but my leather is all mint (luckily)..

kenmosher · #4 03-10-2006, 07:09 PM

Pretty sure that Trim code 995 (the seats) was part of the WE2 package in 1984/85. That would mean that all GNs had them in those years (about 2000 according to http://www.gnttype.org/general/product.html)

As far as Lear Siegler ... from:
http://lear.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=partners

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The 1980s presented the most historic years for the company, which was now organized into six areas: aerospace, automotive/agricultural, automotive service products, material handling/machine tool, electronics & commercial products. In 1987, a leveraged buyout of Lear Siegler was launched that resulted in the sale of all of the company’s divisions, but left the automotive division undisturbed. The General Seating Division was incorporated as the Lear Siegler Seating Corporation and a year later, Lear Holdings Corporation was organized by management to buyout the automotive operations.

Spool'n Fool · #5 03-11-2006, 01:21 AM

Good info on Lear Siegler!

I'm not sure if I agree with the "all cars came with leather though". I've seen 84's with the same/similar interior as my 87 GN.

Where is the trim code located so I can check that number? I wasn't able to locate it.

Thanks!

Spool'n Fool · #6 03-11-2006, 01:47 AM

I found a 60H on my trim tag by the cowl/windshield. The example in the RPO fact page for a 86 shows this 60H to be the Lear Siegler front and rear.

I'll keep deciphering...

Keller · #7 03-11-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Spool'n Fool

The example in the RPO fact page for a 86 shows this 60H to be the Lear Siegler front and rear.

Only '84 cars had this, so it should not be listed for '86.

kenmosher · #8 03-11-2006, 11:02 AM

This seems to be in a lot of places on the web (and I think it was lifted from Steven Dove's GN Facts & Figures book).

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Originally Posted by www.musclecarfacts.com

1984 saw the return of the Grand National, now with a turbocharged, fuel injected V6 (Engine Code LM9) that was rated at 200 bhp and 300 lb-ft of torque. The new SFI (Sequential Fuel Injection) system handled fuel management and the engine also included an electronic waste gate control for engine boost adjustments. The Grand National package (Option WE2) came with the standard black paint, black bumpers, rub strips, and guards, black front air dam, a deck lid spoiler, aluminum wheels with black paint, Lear Siegler front and rear seats (trim code 995) with a stylized "6" embroidered on the front seats, and Grand National identification on the exterior and instrument panel.

Spool'n Fool · #9 03-12-2006, 12:48 AM

This keeps getting more interesting and I'm confused (but that's OK)... I feel like Columbo (Peter Falk as a detective in the 80's for you youn'gns)

I can't find the 995 option listed anywhere on my car?

The "cowl" tag shows
60H 19L 19U L

Did LS make the normal grey/black seats as well? and is the code 60H for them? The light sand grey part is confusing... My 87 GN does not have that code.

If so, maybe the interior was swapped?

Below is the info from the RPO segment for the 86 I talked about. I didn't think the 86 GN's had the leather option except maybe in a T Type?

You learn something new everyday it seems.

1986 WE-2 Option -- Regal Grand National

C60 AIR CONDITIONING

D35 REMOTE CONTROL MIRRORS
D55 FULL LENGTH CONSOLE
LC2 3.8 L SFI TURBO WITH INTERCOOLER
U63 RADIO - AM
MXO 2OO-4R AUTO TRANS
QYZ TIRE -- BLACKWALL P215/65R15
QYH TIRE -- WHITE LETTER P215/65R15
B19 STEERING WHEEL HORN CAP EMBLEM
60H LEAR SIEGLER FRT SEAT W/MATCHING REAR SEAT
EMBROIDERED "6" ON FRT SEAT BACK COLOR: LT. SAND GREY
BY4 I/P NAMEPLATE APPLIQUE "GRAND NATIONAL"
W11 T TYPE PACKAGE
GM19 BLACK EXTERIOR COLOR
T43 REAR SPOILER
BX1 EXTERIOR ORNAMENTATION FRT END SPL
VH6 BAR -- RR IMPACT (BLACK)

Keller · #10 03-12-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Spool'n Fool

Below is the info from the RPO segment for the 86 I talked about. I didn't think the 86 GN's had the leather option except maybe in a T Type?

Listen carefully: Only the '84 GNs had the Lear Siegler seats. Codes get reused at GM. Don't look for something your car never had. The only other (factory) leather seats a TR might have is an '87 Limited with the leather seat option, and those are quite rare.